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<title>Approach Forum &#187; Recent Posts</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:56:27 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>Crebral on "Dave&#039;s Log"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2207#post-10271</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Crebral</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Yeh its hard sometimes to get girls in the right frame of mind.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Its good that you got an approach in but try showing more social awareness, its hard for girls to say yes to you when they're tired stressed and soforth and your (seemingly) oblivious to all that.
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<title>Crebral on "First ever club girl."</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2208#post-10270</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Crebral</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;You did really well, one thing is Im not sure you wanted to ask her to meet you the day after, it can be a bit much if you start seeing her everyday so soon. sometimes its nice to take things slow and easy.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;all the best,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;c
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<title>Indiana on "First ever club girl."</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2208#post-10269</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 08:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Indiana</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Good job! You're doing well!
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<title>sn on "First ever club girl."</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2208#post-10268</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 05:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>sn</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I know I've been MIA, but a lot of new things happened while I was away. I also have a few questions to ask towards the end.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Last week I met this red head in the subway. We didn't chat for too long, but we exchanged numbers towards the end. I shot her one text that day saying it was cool running into her. For some reason after that, I didn't really care too much about texting her back so soon. I got bored the other day and decided to ping her. It took her til the next day to reply, but she invited me to go to this club with her. The funny part is, she mentioned in that text she was going with her bf and a few friends. I was a little disapointed at first and got a little annoyed, but since I had nothing going on that day I decided why not. Maybe she has some cute friends I thought. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We meet at the club. I meet her and her bf (nice guy). We're dancing having a good time. And she asks me what do I like to do for fun. I tell her in a joking way that I like to meet girl in the subway, esp gingers. She laughed and said look around the club and try and talking to one of them. When she had told me that, I had looked around the club and saw I was missing out on way too many beautiful women. I was too focused on someone that was already taken. I realized I might as well see what I can do tonight.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As we were dancing I noticed a really hot blonde girl to my left. I asked her if the smoke in the air bothers her bc I saw her pull out her inhaler. Then, I complimented a tattoo on her wrist, then to more personal questions. I was holding her back and waist a lot bc I wanted to drag her closer to me as we were talking bc it was loud in the club. At this point we got a really conversation going and I knew I had to ask her for her number. I didn't stop after getting her number and so I asked her if she and her friend wanted to go someplace after this and grab a drink or a bite. She and her friend agreed. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;After that we end up at Taco Bell then her friend got a text from another friend at a different club and so we headed out there. I initiated holding her hand walking to the other club. As we got in, the vibe was good and we started dancing together, I was playing w/ her hair a bit, locking our hands and finally I made the move for the kiss. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;At this point this girl is definitely attracted to me. I pointed out a girl who was dancing by herself and the girl I was with said &#34;why don't you go dance with her?&#34; and so I tried walking over to the other girl and she grabbed my arm and pulled me back and laughed. I've pushed her away a few times so I don't look like I am obsessed with her. After all, I just met this girl. I had asked her if she wanted to hang out today (following day) and she agreed. ANd so we said our goodbyes and parted ways.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;At this point do you guys have any suggestions or advice you can give me?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It's funny to think, the girl I approached on the subway led me to another girl. I guess shit happens for a reason!
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<title>The_Hurricane on "Un-Cold Workplace Strategy"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2162#post-10266</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>The_Hurricane</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@RK&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If you're looking for a friendship, what you're doing is fine. But if you're looking for something more, you have to realize that asking women out on multiple occasions while at the same time failing to escalate is exactly how you fall into the friend zone. (I know that she's a coworker, but it's still true.) Women are very good at detecting attraction. You've been bantering with her for a while. You've asked her out and she said no before. Do you really think that she doesn't know you're attracted to her? She absolutely does. In her mind, you're the guy who wants romance but settles for friendship. And now you've asked her out again. She's accepted. After all of this platonic back and forth, what you don't know is on what terms she's accepted. Given all that has transpired, I would guess that she's accepted on friendly terms. Am I sure? No. Game is probabilistic, not deterministic. But if she has accepted on friendly terms, you are moving further away from romance, not towards it.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;--Lee
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<title>RK on "Un-Cold Workplace Strategy"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2162#post-10265</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>RK</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Lee, I totally second your thoughts. The reason I did ask her out is (1) I'm going for that show no matter what, date or no date (it's a very liberating feeling when that is the case - it means she's just a bonus); (2) I heard she had a nasty breakup a year ago and she's single (maybe that's why she's a bit on guard and defensive) and (3) I've never made a remote move on her anytime or even gotten into the banter zone, quite the opposite - we have different social circles and never meet socially after work. From my experience I tend to build up better friendships with people I never consciously tried too hard with or disliked initially. I wouldn't say I was chasing her.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm not going to take any initiative after the date. It's completely in her court thereafter.
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<title>davenyc on "Dave&#039;s Log"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2207#post-10264</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>davenyc</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I'm going to try to commit to approaching again so I'm starting a journal.  It's still cold, but with spring approaching I want to build up and be on top of my game by then.  I'm pretty perfectly situated with a job in Midtown Manhattan so I'm hopeful.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My plan is to go direct unless she is walking towards me in which case I will stop her with an indirect opener.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;2/3/12&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I see a really cute, petite girl trying to hail a cab and she can't get one so she walks quickly to the corner to try again.  Then, she collides with a woman who was crossing the street.  About 5 seconds later I'm next to her.  &#34;I like your shoes,&#34; I tell her.  She turns her head to look at me and halfheartedly says, &#34;oh thanks.&#34;  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I just wanted to get a direct approach out there so I didn't try to continue into a conversation.  She probably wasn't in the best state of mind for a first approach, but I'm glad I attempted.
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<title>Eric Disco on "How do you guys date?"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2201#post-10263</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Eric Disco</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi Francis,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;1. What style of date do you guys tend to go for, e.g. dinner, coffee, drinks in bar, walk in park?&#60;/p&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Definitely not a dinner date, at least not for the first date. Usually drinks, pool, or coffee if she's under 21.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;2. What makes a good date for you guys?&#60;/p&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
&#60;p&#62;A couch where I can sit next to her. But a few other things too, I talk about &#60;a href=&#34;http://approachanxiety.com/2008/04/10-rules-for-the-perfect-first-date/&#34;&#62;here.&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;3. Do you tend to do research on where's cool to go in your town or city?&#60;/p&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Absolutely. In NYC there's a few great lists like &#60;a href=&#34;http://nonsensenyc.com/&#34;&#62;Nonsense NYC&#60;/a&#62; and &#60;a href=&#34;launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/hipstertravelnycpicks/&#34;&#62;Hipster Travel.&#60;/a&#62; Those are great for fun events for a 2nd or 3rd date.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;For a first date I typically take girls to a place I always go. I'm comfortable there and know the layout.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Eric
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<title>The_Hurricane on "RK&#039;s Log"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2206#post-10262</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>The_Hurricane</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@RK&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Well done. It takes a lot of interest for a woman to write to a man so you have a hot prospect. Leaving first was awesome. Some guys would just stay as long as the girl gave them attention. Just pop the question. &#34;tues 9pm at blah blah blah delicious margaritas. the adventure begins :-)&#34;
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<title>RK on "RK&#039;s Log"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2206#post-10261</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>RK</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Indiana's log is very inspiring and I thought I'd consolidate all my cold approaches and initiatives into one thread. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Yesterday I met a hot swedish tourist on my way back home, at nearly 11 pm. She asks me where a particular church is located and since that's close to where I live, I reply &#34;Come on, I'm headed that way myself&#34;. She seems grateful and friendly and we're soon chatting away. 10 minutes later we reach. I'm about to part ways with her, (desperately thinking of something to say without seeming needy), and head into my cheerful neighbourhood bakery to get some bread, when she asks me &#34;Do they serve coffee?&#34;. Without a thought I reply &#34;There's only one way to find out&#34;, pushing her in by her waist, gently. Surprisingly she agrees. We have a relaxed 30 minute coffee, and she tells me all about herself, blah blah. I touch her a lot, mostly on the arms and shoulders, smile a lot, talk little, qualify her a little (I have this great qualifier of the size of female brains v male brains, at the risk of sounding slightly sexist). In the end, I make it a point to be the first to leave. She asks for my email but not my phone number (maybe she doesn;t want to be in a position to swap hers). We head out and separate. I thought about asking her to come back home for a drink but it seemed a bit creepy so I let it go.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Today I got a thank you email from her - short and warm. I get the feeling she's cool with continuing an email banter. I'm in two minds about this. She might not stay here too long so email is perhaps the best bet but I'm not in the mood for getting into prolonged email banter with this chick, no matter how hot she is.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Wonder where I could have improved.
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<title>The_Hurricane on "Indiana&#039;s Log"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2202#post-10260</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>The_Hurricane</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Indiana&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;That's my boy! You should let her wait a few days even if you are interested!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;--Lee
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<title>The_Hurricane on "Starting NOW"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2111&amp;page=2#post-10259</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>The_Hurricane</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Indiana&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It's normal. Over time, this attitude will change. You will come to realize that one of the things you like about girls is that they really get you and appreciate you - in other words, that they like you back. And when you meet girls who don't like you back, you won't like them. Then things will be easier.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;--Lee
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<title>The_Hurricane on "Another Shit Test. Help!"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2056&amp;page=4#post-10258</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>The_Hurricane</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@RK&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Adding to what Mr. Antiquity said (and said very well), your mind is in entirely the wrong place. When I am not in a monogamous relationship, I tell women they should assume I'm dating other women. You are not even dating this girl and you are afraid to tell her that you are dating other women, which happens to be true! That is fucked. You are nowhere near over her. My text tells her you're slipping away as a prospect. Your text tells her that nothing has changed and you are just busy. Your objective is to get her to stop writing to you out of frustration. You'll never accomplish that being fucking timid. You are not ready to cut her off completely and you should seek some therapy to help you make that decision.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;--Lee
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<title>MrAntiquity on "Another Shit Test. Help!"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2056&amp;page=4#post-10257</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>MrAntiquity</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@RK--&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Your text and Lee's are very different.  Lee's says 'Hi--I&#34;m busy.'  Yours says  'Hi!! I'm still here!!!' &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Lee's trying to get you to move on.  You're pretending to yourself that you're moving on but you're not.  You're obsessed with this interaction. This is...what...107 comments about a few text exchanges?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You're missing the point entirely.  The point is you've got a friendly relationship established..and by being there consistently that IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.  Also, by trying to change it (which, is exactly what you're doing by trying to assess the merit of each text) it won't change either.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If you're fine with her as a friendly interaction, then keep it up.  If not, then cut the cord.
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<title>Indiana on "Starting NOW"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2111&amp;page=2#post-10255</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Indiana</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Although I have pulled back completely from this girl and gaming other girls, I still think of her. I'm not about initiating any contact but i have to admit that I liked her. Maybe this changes when I get with another girl as far as with her.
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<title>Indiana on "Indiana&#039;s Log"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2202#post-10254</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Indiana</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Again, you were right. She sent me A Friendship-invitation on FB...  ;)&#60;br /&#62;
I'll let her wait some days, since I'm not very interested.
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<title>RK on "Another Shit Test. Help!"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2056&amp;page=4#post-10253</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>RK</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;What! And I thought I had done something right. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Lee,believe me when I say this - I'm not obsessed with her anymore. Far from it. In fact, I'm irritated that she's trying to contact me when it suits her, no doubt during the dull moments of her summer job. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Seriously, was there such a big difference between what I wrote and what you suggested? The very fact that I've not bothered to call her back once despite her 3 attempts these past three weeks should be a good indicator of my pulling away. I put in the smiley to remove any sign that I'm being curt and cold simply cos she chose to work in a diff city.
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<title>The_Hurricane on "Another Shit Test. Help!"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2056&amp;page=4#post-10252</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>The_Hurricane</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@RK&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Dude, you are never going to stop talking to this girl. You are giving her just enough to continue talking to you. What you want is for her to give up out of frustration, not out of disinterest. If what you're doing is EVER going to make her give up, it will be out of disinterest. This has gone on long enough. Seriously, you should go seek some therapy. On your own, you can't do what it takes to do this right.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;--Lee
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<title>RK on "Another Shit Test. Help!"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2056&amp;page=4#post-10251</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>RK</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Johnybravo, &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hah, it's not easy for sure. I finally sent this a day later. &#34;I'm alright :) just busy as hell with work. And travel.&#34;
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<title>The_Hurricane on "Un-Cold Workplace Strategy"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2162#post-10250</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>The_Hurricane</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@RK&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This is a girl who has already said no to you several times. Granted, they were all indirect. Meaning, she said she was busy when you suggested hanging out, and she joked that she didn't want your company on a morning flight because she's too crabby in the morning. Sure, these are soft no's, but they're still no's. If she were really interested, she would have suggested alternatives. I don't know where this is going or whether she's changed her mind, but you have to realize that you are chasing this girl. You are starting off this relationship much as you started the other one you wrote about - with a pretty weak hand. As you've pointed out, you can't even escalate as you normally would because she is a coworker. At some point, you will have to stop pushing to see if she starts pulling. If she doesn't, I'd drop this one.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;--Lee
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<title>The_Hurricane on "On Chivalry"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2204#post-10249</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>The_Hurricane</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Indiana&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I will sometimes walk in first, usually not. But I certainly don't think about it. And in other ways, I am probably less mindful. I don't come around to the other side to open her car door. I don't pull out her chair or help her with her coat. I don't ask her if she wants another drink. I don't take her to a fancy restaurant on a first date. I pay for one drink and then I'm out. I am the one who ends the date (abruptly). Do women like it? No. Do they respect and want me. Mostly yes. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;--Lee
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<title>The_Hurricane on "Indiana&#039;s Log"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2202#post-10248</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>The_Hurricane</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Indiana&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Other than the touching, it sounds to me like you did everything right. I don't know if you'll ever see this girl again, but a girl who had absolutely no interest in you wouldn't have made that comment. She would have just stayed away. That comment was meant to test you, which is another way of saying there was some interest. If you ever see this girl again, don't be surprised if it's not a dead end.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;--Lee
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<title>Indiana on "On Chivalry"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2204#post-10247</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Indiana</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Thank you vor the confirmation. This is what I am about at the moment, too.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So, when you and a girl u just met walk towards a door, you walk in first?
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<title>The_Hurricane on "On Chivalry"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2204#post-10246</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>The_Hurricane</dc:creator>
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&#60;p&#62;If by chivalry you mean courtesy towards women you just met, I am against it. Being polite to women, making them feel comfortable around you, showing them respect is not what they actually want from you. It's what they say they want from you. I've told my favorite story about this subject on this site before.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;About four years ago, I was with a big group of friends. One of my friends was sitting next to a girl he just met. His hands were all over her. At one point, she stood up, turned towards him, and shouted &#34;Get your hands off me! I never gave you permission to touch me like that!&#34; He apologized to her, assured her he'd behave, and she sat back down. Minutes later, he was right back at it. Forward six months. They are boyfriend / girlfriend. He says to her &#34;Remember when we met?&#34; She says &#34;Yeah. Your hands were all over me. It was so hot!&#34; More recent update: They just had a beautiful baby girl. (Eric knows who I'm talking about.)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Get it? At the moment, she didn't know what she wanted. In hindsight, it was all very clear.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So, should you never open doors for girls, pick up the check, bring them flowers? Never would be too much. You should sometimes do these things. But at the beginning, the right answer is no - no, until a woman demonstrates a lot of value, which includes a strong interest in you.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;--Lee
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<title>Indiana on "On Chivalry"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2204#post-10245</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Indiana</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;What do you guys think about opening doors for girls, letting them go first, &#34;ladies first&#34;, etc.?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Lately I haven't been chivalrous to any girl. I went in first into rooms, haven't been handy to them, etc.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;A girl I was trying to seduce was turned off by to less chivalry of me. I have really been a naghty boy towards her, haven't let her go through doors first, etc.&#60;br /&#62;
Finally she called it out and asked me if this badass-routine, all the guys are into now does work for me.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So, what do you guys think?
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<title>Indiana on "Is Eric still allowing new members to participate in weekly challenge?"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2203#post-10244</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Indiana</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Well it's a proven way for many of us. You have to try it. But you won't be succesful by not coming out of your comfort zone again and again. This game's fun, that's the most important fact. When you start having fun with it, you're on your way. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The weekly challenge is paused at the moment.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Indie
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<title>JTHA80 on "Is Eric still allowing new members to participate in weekly challenge?"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2203#post-10243</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>JTHA80</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Well, I haven't been getting any emails from him about this challenge except about three - then they stopped coming into my inbox.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;By the way - is the only way to keep approach anxiety at bay (to try to minimize it) to approach at least one girl every day ?
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<title>superset on "Is Eric still allowing new members to participate in weekly challenge?"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2203#post-10242</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 10:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Me and my brother both tried to sign up but were unable to.
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<title>Indiana on "Indiana&#039;s Log"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2202#post-10241</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Indiana</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Yesterday.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Yesterday was the last seminar in my pedagogy class before the end of semester. I've had an eye for one cute girl there, which nobody of my kommilitones knew. I didn't know how old she was, but style and behavior, as well as looks, seemed to be my age, around en 20s.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There wasn't any special eye-contact between us. But we both smiled when we saw each other. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So, after our last seminar and probably the last time I would ever see her, I decided to make a move. She left 5 minutes earlier and after another minute I followed her. She was walking down the stairs slowly and stopped to arrange her jacket as if she waited for me.&#60;br /&#62;
I reached her, tabbed her arm and said: &#34;We made it huh? (through the seminar)&#34; she said yeah, finally, with a smile. So I said, lets grab a coffee at the cafeteria!&#60;br /&#62;
Her: &#34;ehhhhh, no. I have to pick up my child from the kindergarden...&#34;&#60;br /&#62;
Ouch, I didn't expect much but what I haven't expected at all was this...&#60;br /&#62;
So I wished her a nice semesterbreak and moved on. Could have hold the conversation to see what would happen.. Maybe I'd got a MILF?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;In the end I felt great for making a move and pushing my comfort zone.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;in the evening I was at a little birthdayparty of one of my friends. There was also a girl I liked. She was younger than me, 22, but really confident and a little coquete, which I liked. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We went outside several times to smoke and I qualified her a lot after initial banter. We also had a good one on one conversation at the table we were sitting (with all the other guys and girls). At one point she tried to bust on me for not telling her what I meant by saying: &#34;You know what they say about girls drinking tequilla sunrise.&#34; She said she won't talk to me til I tell her and tried to look upset. I said: &#34;that's so cute...&#34;, turned a little and talked to the people on the other side of me. Especially with a girl I started flirting. Gril No. 1 still tried to look upset and wasn't talking to anyone.&#60;br /&#62;
After a while she started talking to me again and things normalized again.&#60;br /&#62;
But, later, being outdoor with me to smoke, she asked if this badboy thing worked for me, being unpolite and so on. I smiled at her and busted on her because of that.&#60;br /&#62;
There wasn't anymore talk or interaction and little later, she left the bar.&#60;br /&#62;
One of the problems here was, that I wasn't able to touch her like I wanted to because she was sitting across the table from me. One time I tried, but she pulled her hands awas after that. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;New day, new adventure.
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<title>RK on "Un-Cold Workplace Strategy"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2162#post-10240</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>RK</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Two weeks on, I decide its time for a second ping. As usual, I been occasionally speaking to her, heavily qualifying her (weight is a great way) and just once or twice being nice. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It was late today and we were both in office. At some point while passing, I casually asked her &#34;Hey, there's a great music concert two weeks later. I'm going and have an extra ticket. Want to come along?&#34; Turns out she's into this kind of music too. She agrees and briefly checks the date to see if it is okay. After that we chat for a minute. I too, make a deal of seeing the date again, so to indicate that it Really is ok for me too. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So, I've got her to agree to go out. Now the hard part is escalation. Being a coworker, I'm nervous about getting too physical. But I dont want this date to end mechanically. Now what are the best ways to escalate? Arm around her waist? hold her close during the show? offer to have a drink later? Must think it through.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Ideas are welcome.
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<title>edwin on "My start"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2082&amp;page=2#post-10239</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>edwin</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;thanks Lee - I can do that.
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<title>Johnybravo on "Another Shit Test. Help!"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2056&amp;page=4#post-10238</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Lee&#60;br /&#62;
it will take a lot, I mean a lot to send the above text. If RK sends exactly the above text..... I will up my approach a day to 2!
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<title>The_Hurricane on "My start"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2082&amp;page=2#post-10237</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>The_Hurricane</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@edwin&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If you're qualifying right out of your opener, you're doing enough. I wouldn't qualify her harder before making a connection. To make a connection, you have to move to the next step. Turn the conversation back to her. &#34;So what are you into? Do you read, do you write, do you sing, do you dance?&#34; She'll answer. You'll ask a couple of questions. You can stay with the subject longer if it's something interesting. Then turn it back to you. &#34;Your turn. Guess what I'm into.&#34; She'll guess. Then you better have a good story about what you're into. That's the next step.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;--Lee
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<title>The_Hurricane on "Another Shit Test. Help!"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2056&amp;page=4#post-10236</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>The_Hurricane</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@RK&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Wait two days and respond: &#34;i'm fine! just busy as hell at work. and dating.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;A few more of these - at most - and she'll stop texting you altogether. And then you start counting the months.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;--Lee
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<title>RK on "Another Shit Test. Help!"</title>
<link>http://approachanxiety.com/forum/topic.php?id=2056&amp;page=4#post-10235</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>RK</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Just got this text from her- &#34;What happened! You've disappeared!&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;@Lee, where to now? This is quite an experiment.
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